Wednesday, March 27, 2013

Marriage Equality

One of the most significant arguments in modern USA culture has to be marriage equality.  Arguments are being heard in the Supreme Court right now.  Hearing both sides of the argument, I know which side I am on, but that doesn't stop me from trying to understand the point of view from those whom I disagree with.  That's what a conversation means to me, where two or more different viewpoints can be looked at, discussed and understanding take place.  I don't think the conversation ever happened.  I think both sides are at fault on that failing, but that isn't what I want to talk about.

I wonder what this country (not to mention the modern world)  would be like if Government would have stayed out of the personal affairs of first century Christians?  I wonder if the history of their persecution is 'why' some, not all, but some tend to do the same today...

If you remember our (human) history, you'll remember it was the Sanhedrin, and other religious lobbyist who advocated the government to be in favor of Christian persecution… I’m sure they thought they were doing what was right, you know, sticking up for their God(s) obeying their doctrines…

Scriptures that come to mind: Luke 6:37, Luke 6:41, John 8:7, Romans 2:1, Roman 14:10, Romans 14:13, 1 Cor 4:5…

When I was a Christian I often had issue with why people got so bent out of shape of what other people were doing.  I guess I still do, this issue is moot in my mind.  Freedom for one group to do something and advocate to have it denied another when both are under the same Government falls under discrimination, which should have no place in our country, especially where love is supposed to the motivation for action for the majority of people who live here.  I wonder what the issue is, really is?

Despite how history played out or will play out, a friend of mine posted something on 'FB' that I feel is worth sharing and sums it up for me.  

This is the Jefferson Memorial, if any were wondering what the Founding Fathers might say today as the Supreme Court considers the "Defense of Marriage Act."


  1. Hey Stevie, thanks for sharing this on FB. It's rare than I see comments from those from the old OPP stomping ground that has audacity enough to have such a blog. Take care bud. Trent K.

    1. Thanks Trent, you you should start you one, or give me the link

  2. Kristen AllbrittonMarch 28, 2013 at 6:38 AM

    First time visitor, first time commenter; however, not a last time visitor to your blog!

    I agree with you, Steve. I am a Christian, but it burns me up to see the negativity and judgment from others on such a topic that is really no one's damn business. Who you love shouldn't concern anyone else.

    Personally, I don't understand why anyone would want to be married this day in age, but that is for another discussion. It's been bastardized so much by people who break those "sacred" vows all the time, or who, at the first sign of conflict, decide to call it quits.

    That being said, there are people who do want to be married and share equal benefits, and whether that be to another man or another woman, they should be allowed to do so. At the end of the day, it's not impacting these people who are fighting so hard against it. So many people get lost in that concept, believing that they know better and can cast stones accordingly. As a nation, we should embrace the idea that people can love whoever they want instead of fighting it.

  3. Well, I'm finally coming back to this, to recall what I attempted to comment from my phone. Oy, she has grown stale. But this is what's on my mind this morning: that the world only spins forward. It may glitch here and there, but the playwright from whom I steal this (Tony Kushner) is correct in his inference, that progress is the only way forward. We don't ever truly go back. If there's any one single thing that's "impressive" about homo sapiens, it's that we tend to trajectory upwards and forwards. The huge change in the discourse on this in the U.S. between 2003 and 2013 just *blows my mind.* It threatens to do me proud of my species and my country, despite the fact that I regularly wish Apophis would just come and correct this mess already. ;) (After all, my fave movie quote of all time is Agent Smith's "humans are a virus" soliloquy in "The Matrix.") The old guard is fading, as it should. As it always does. Because the world only spins forward.

    And thanks, Stevie, for being brave enough to challenge the majority, especially in your part of the world.